Comments on: Romney Wins! So What? http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/romney-wins-so-what/ Informed reflection on the events of the day Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.23 By: Jeffrey Goldfarb http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/romney-wins-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-26036 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:15:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15819#comment-26036 I thought a lot about your first point last night and this morning, Aron. But overlooked your second. Indeed there is lots of talk about Big Bird today. Political observers may have overlooked that there was indeed a big gaffe, and it fits the Romney narrative, not understanding what is dear if not sacred in American life. As the day progresses I am feeling better and better. Obama seems to be counter punching effectively in his public appearances. And the severe conservative is hollowly redefining himself as a moderate, provoking questions about who this person really is.

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By: Aron Hsiao http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/romney-wins-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-26035 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:53:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15819#comment-26035 Two quick comments in agreement:

(1) “A debate” is a socially constructed situation with clear norms and roles. It is not the same situation as “the election.” Astute analysts are able to separate “winning a debate” from “winning electoral support.” It is possible for Romney to have convincingly won the debate by all accounts without having won much more support.

(2) From a similarly cultural perspective, I think that most of the serious people underestimate the importance of the “big bird moment” last night. I suspect that the cultural meaning of “Big Bird” goes way beyond a symbolism for the public broadcasting system. Ratings tell us that America doesn’t necessarily care much for PBS, but my gut and life experience in the middle class of middle America tell me that America cares deeply for Big Bird, who is a cherished and polyvocal cultural symbol, and a deeply personal one for recent generations—one that Romney has just politicized in ways that iterate the notion of his misreading/distance from middle-class U.S. culture and values. He misread the sign (in the Saussurian sense). Big Bird does not signify PBS for most people, but rather a constellation of things that run much, much deeper. My intuition is that this will be a bigger mistake than it will be understood or discussed to be, though I don’t have much evidence for this position beyond the large number of Facebook memes that have appeared since last night featuring Big Bird and/or his fellow muppet travelers as suddenly political figures.

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By: Tomek Kitlinski http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/romney-wins-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-26034 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:57:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15819#comment-26034 Great piece! Penetrates behind the “society of the spectacle” poetics and politics of last night’s debate and of the entire presidential campaign. Your diagnosis also applies to the European scene with, as you write, “competing political philosophies.” Thanks!

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