Comments on: On “Don’t Mess with Big Bird” http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/on-%e2%80%9cdon%e2%80%99t-mess-with-big-bird%e2%80%9d/ Informed reflection on the events of the day Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.23 By: Naomi Goldfarb http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/on-%e2%80%9cdon%e2%80%99t-mess-with-big-bird%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-26048 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:55:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15864#comment-26048 Now the Obama campaign is considering the request from the Sesame Workshop to pull the ad, and I believe it likely will. I look at it as a sad aspect to our democracy that there are such low information voters where TV ads can make a difference, and a debate performance, no matter what the content, can make a difference. It’s true that the chattering classes are talking about Big Bird as are the candidates on the campaign trail, but most people are not paying attention. The ad has punch as Jeff says, but clearly the best opportunity to draw this stark contrast in policy will be at the next debate. I have hope that Biden will be direct and to the point, and expose Ryan if he starts to sound all warm and fuzzy. They say Vice-Presidential debates don’t matter, but I suspect that this one will have a big audience, especially since Ryan has the reputation he does as being “the big thinker” of the Republican Party.

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By: Jeffrey Goldfarb http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/on-%e2%80%9cdon%e2%80%99t-mess-with-big-bird%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-26047 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:50:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15864#comment-26047 I see your point. It is aesthetically elegant and perhaps politically
wise. But I am not sure. The ad has punch and Obama needs to do some
punching now.

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By: Aron Hsiao http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/on-%e2%80%9cdon%e2%80%99t-mess-with-big-bird%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-26046 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15864#comment-26046 An update: This morning word is out about a new Obama campaign ad featuring Big Bird. I worry that the Obama campaign has made a misstep here—they’ve now committed a similar sin to Romney’s sin (though a less egregious one). To my eye they would have been better to simply leave Big Bird and discussion of him to the public, or to run a straightforward ad (rather than an over-the-top attack ad juxtaposing Big Bird and Bernie Madoff, etc.) expressing support for Big Bird and PBS. It would appear that the Obama campaign didn’t quite understand the meaning of Big Bird either, and are sliding down from the high ground that Romney ceded to them.

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By: Naomi Goldfarb http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/on-%e2%80%9cdon%e2%80%99t-mess-with-big-bird%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-26045 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:54:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15864#comment-26045 Romney has been going around saying that Big Bird will survive under his administration, only that he will have to learn to get along with Kellogg’s Cornflakes. Not only did Jeff and I raise our kids allowing only very limited TV, the only channel they could watch was PBS. Especially after our experience living in Poland in the early 70’s and traveling around Eastern Europe at that time, we became very incensed against propaganda. When we returned home, we noticed that children were singing the jingles of the commercials they heard, and we vowed not to let that happen to our kids. Even if parents aren’t so sensitive to the ill effects commercials can have upon their children, everyone should cherish a place where anyone, no matter how old, can go for learning and entertainment without being bombarded by advertizing. Even though technology has changed, and prerecording is now possible, it comes at extra cost that many can’t afford. And how many parents would be monitoring the zapping of commercials, anyway? The loss of PBS would be a tragedy for our society. Romney is just daft to think Big Bird can get along with Kellogg’s Cornflakes and who knows what else and maintain his integrity.

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By: Aron Hsiao http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2012/10/on-%e2%80%9cdon%e2%80%99t-mess-with-big-bird%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-26044 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:01:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=15864#comment-26044 “The stakes of the election for Obama are personified by Big Bird.”

I think that you have captured the crux of the issue, Jeff, and the reason for the reactions that we’ve seen since the debate. The sudden emergence of Big Bird as an object public discourse embodies your larger discussion: not everyone is able (no matter the reasons) to follow stump speeches and platforms closely or to make head or tails of the details (often with minimal context to support them) that overwhelm debates like the one that we saw. The Big Bird statement, however (and the endless string of memes that have followed it) acted as a monad: it encapsulated the larger realities and inherent tensions of the moment in ways that were able to convey the stakes of the election to the widest possible audience, without the need for reliance on exposition or debate, or the parsing of words in an attempt to alienate neither elites nor the rank-and-file.

My guess is that for all of Obama’s efforts at the convention, the question of where one stands on Big Bird is among the most economical of possible ways to bring the public to consciousness about the nature of their vote in this election cycle.

My bet is that the greater portion of the American public stands with Big Bird.

Great insight and post.

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