Comments on: Occupy New School? http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/ Informed reflection on the events of the day Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.23 By: Peppd886 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21515 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:42:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21515 Tim

Sorry for the late reply, thanks for the kind words. In terms of sycophant, I know it’s a strong word, but Im trying to imply that I see that we have a greater problem in the New School than the occupiers. And I see that as a kind of sycophantic culture (also operating in greater society). One in which that kind of disposition is encouraged, or shaped, so that it becomes a prominent part of ones ‘habitus’. I have caught myself in the years of being at the New School, as acting like a sycophant, and it disgusts me. Maybe I am projecting? So I am not labeling you a sycophant or any student. I am pointing to what I see as a systemic problem where it has become standard operating procedure for students to not critically question their professors or the administration. As I mentioned before I see myself as being complicit in this problem.

In terms of the letter, I do not think discussion is ‘stifled’. That would be too easy a problem. Its much more sinister than that. I think that it at best promotes a very limited form of discussion and knowledge. The letter, not with conscious intent, is an example of implicit social control. It in a sense uses the incident as away to direct critical attention away from the New School. And it rationalizes the existence of the New School by way of what I see as a kind of crude ‘othering’. The “real enemies” are out ‘there’ not here. I for one believe that we all have ‘real enemies’ operating within our own minds, within our institutions and in every realm of existence. What this means is that we must be constantly self critical even if it makes us uncomfortable or uncertain. I urge you to read Foucault’s discussion of Parthesia in ‘Fearless Speech’. With regard to your last question I do not think that I challenge “official knowledge” sufficiently. Nor do I think I speak my mind in a way that poses any real challenge. Once again I see myself as being part of a larger problem that I only slightly understand.

Best,

David Peppas

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By: Alice http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21231 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 22:15:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21231 Friends and colleagues, When the faculty letter was under discussion, I participated in the discussion and defended aspects of Nancy Fraser’s dissent. In doing so, I rewrote portions of the letter hoping to produce something more satisfactory, something that thanked the administration but was in other respects different, in particular in being more supportive of the original methods of our local occupation. When my rewrite wasn’t accepted, I should have removed my name from the list of signers. I am heartened by Ross Poole’s contribution here and the discussion surrounding it.

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By: Guest3 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21221 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:48:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21221 Hallelujah! I wonder if Van Zandt got a $40,000 raise, would Arato would circulate a petition demanding it go back to students instead? Arato seems unaware of the fact that whereas it costs $30,000+ just to attend the New School, the President of the university made $1.3 million in 2009 (and presumably Van Zandt makes as much or more, given tuition has increased since- he may have already gotten that $40,000 raise).

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By: Aarato1944 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21209 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:51:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21209 The Occupation of the New School as a Childhood Ailment of the OWS

(In the memory of Vladimir Ilyich, who in spite of everything was a great political man)

The Occupation of Wall Street has already done important things. It has put the very important issue of inequality on the collective American agenda. It has experimented in forms of direct democracy, and in ways of seriously influencing the political system outside the official channels. In my opinion it has the potential of becoming more then the forerunner, but also a key component of a new American movement for more democracy and more justice. As all movements it must confront its own worst tendencies to realize its genuine potential.

By tendencies I mean strategies rather than people or individuals or groups. Such a negative strategy is symbolized by the slogan that appeared just before the taking of a part of the new School: “occupy everything”. I regard it as a childhood ailment not to denigrate any participants or to represent their age (they were adults!), but to indicate problems of an early, developmental phase that can be easily overcome.

“Occupy everything” is a deeply military metaphor, incompatible with a non-violent movement aiming to raise moral as well as political consciousness. The idea of “seizing public or quasi-public spaces to make broad claims about the overall (mis)direction of our society” cannot be justified as a general right in the name of which the law is violated to transform or improve it. It is incompatible with productively addressing “the public at large”. Finally, and most clearly “occupy everything” is deeply contradictory with the creative slogan “we are 99%.”

Occupation as against sit in is a military metaphor. It easily calls in mind the occupation of Iraq, and of the West Bank of the Jordan River. Sit in means that those who rightly belong take up space, non-violently, space where they have a right to be and to stay in civil disobedience, accepting to pay a price when arrested to bear moral witness to unjust laws the need to be changed. Occupation means the forcible taking and holding of territory. Literally speaking, while most of the events taking place over all over the country were sit ins, despite their name, a few were attempted and (mostly) failed occupations. Sit-ins can lead to only one-sided use of open force, while occupations involve two-sided violence. We can have sit ins in the space and territory of friends, but it is always the territory of enemies that is occupied.

Words matter. While an occupation can be effectively a sit-in, and a sit-in can be an occupation, or be turned into one, when the word “occupy” is used that in itself produces facts and outcomes. The general claim made by Nancy Fraser that OWS implies the strategy (and implicitly the right) of “seizing public or quasi-public spaces” is just a slightly limited version of “occupy everything”. It means that not only the New School’s space, but that of Stuyvesant High, public schools, hospitals and offices dedicated to the administration of essential public goods and services could be rightly seized if the purpose was to elevate and open up public discussion. The very spaces of public discussion could be seized to facilitate another discussion. Such an idea leads to deep conflicts between the occupiers and those whose activities, rights and forms of publicness are being forcibly displaced. When in sit ins or in civil disobedience rights are violated, these are rights that are exclusionary and oppressive that in themselves involve the denial of rights more universal and more justified. This cannot be said about all social space, and their relevant rights holders. Rights can be calimed only to the extent that they do not violate other rights without serious reason, above all identical rights. For example, the rights that are constitutive of the public sphere and without which it cannot ultimately exist, ought not be violated in the name of the very same rights. That is why occupying hospitals, or schools or spaces of public learning or discussion are unjustified, unless it is by their own participants who are being denied important rights. But then the occupation would be a sit-in. When parts of OWS march over to the New School and occupy part of it, they are not occupying a space whose owners or holders or participants have denied them any rights. On the contrary the right to freely assemble, and speak has been granted to them over and over again by that very institution. To occupy that institution is to imagine it as an enemy, and unfortunately to turn it into an enemy. To occupy in the name of its very participants in the face of their opposition, or: without their democratic decision can never be made acceptable.

Equally important, occupation that aggressively sets the interests and needs and opinions of people on the same level, here students and students, against one another cannot be a strategy in the name of 99%. (Even faculty belong to the 99%, I would add, though here some rhetorics have put us on the other side.) Speaking in the name of 99% is based on a fiction, but it is a productive fiction as long as the interests of 99% are rigorously kept in mind. Opening up friend and enemy relations among us means that the movement suddenly is acting in the name of a much smaller percentage than 99. If all public and quasi-public spaces can be occupied, the 99% turns into .00001% and the 1% turns into 99. A popular strategy turns into a narrowly elitist one. The results, if “occupy everything” became a general strategy would be disastrous, mostly for the activists themselves. But we would all lose the potential I am speaking about.

It was perhaps right to use the military metaphor in the case of Wall Street (that could of course not be occupied, among other things because it is ultimately a virtual space), because that 1% itself acts like an exploitative, occupying force with respect to the rest of society. Zuccotti Park was a symbol of nearby Wall Street, and a park where few other rights were at stake. A better slogan would have been better, but we are now stuck with “occupy”. But extending the idea to everything, or all public and quasi-public space (whatever the last phrase means) is a disaster. This strategy emerged as a result of a temporary defeat, the police attack on the park. If continued the real 99% (or htose who more successfully speak in its name) will crush the imaginary and symbolic one, even if it is against some of its interests. It is by no means the only strategy available. OWS is not ultimately an occupation, that was at best a temporary strategy, but a proto movement, a potential part of a new American movement for economic justice. A movement can use demonstrations, open public and intellectual discussion, exemplary acts, forms of art and performance (politization of art, rather than the aesthetization of politics pushed by some!) and even generating new and better forms of organization and leadership to do what only movements can do: help transform the political culture and influence the direction of more formal political development.

A childhood ailment can kill, as well as immunize. People speak of the Occupation of the New School as an important learning experience. I hope this is indeed the result.

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By: Eli Zaretsky http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21199 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:48:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21199 Dear friends: I signed the faculty letter but I believe I was hasty in doing
so. The truth is I didn’t give it the thought it deserved: I wanted the
faculty to thank the administration and this seemed the only letter out
there. However, I find Ross’s letter convincing, Eli

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By: Friem066 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21198 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:22:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21198 Ross- As a Milano Student who was alternately engaged and repelled by the occupation, I find your comments heartening. For the record, there were absolutely strategic mistakes and destructive actions made by the occupiers. But Arato’s letter on this post disturbs me by many orders of magnitude more than anything the occupiers did. Not only is the substance of Arato’s note completely devoid of any greater social and political context-thereby completely ignoring or impending ecological and social breakdown- but his tone was arrogant and condescending. I do not consider myself a radical by any means. But he has done far more more to enrage me then any right winger ever could. I appreciate you being able to articulate much of what I was feeling in a more respectful manner. To the tell you the truth, I still find it difficult to read Arrato’s post without getting sick to my stomach. Additionally, his arrogance is confirmed every time he responds to criticism with belittlement and derision.

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By: Guest2 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21197 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:00:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21197 The paternalistic tone of the letter was disquieting but knowing the integrity of the work of so many of the signers I would imagine trying to give them, it, the benefit of the doubt. This is beyond facts. Its form vastly overshadows the merits and flaws of argument. Try as I might, reading the comments has left me bereft. How can professors at The New School for Social Research take such a deeply problematic tone and in public, no less with students? Have you lost all touch with the ethical nature of the position that you occupy? You mock their fear, you ransack their beliefs with careless ease, use authority and skepticism to close down dialogue. These students pay your salary. These students face mountains of debt that they incur to work with you. The occupy movement, for all its flaws, served as a point of hope that this might be otherwise. That education, in the future, might not cost so very much. I’m ashamed to be part of The New School and to think that I’ve shared, even in imagination, a sense of communal code as a professor with the signers of this letter.

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By: nssr student http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21195 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:10:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21195 Thank you Ross. As a student, I appreciate your nuanced assessment of the situation. I agree that the open letter above seems to have been drafted in haste. It has upset a lot of my peers, including many not involved in (or particularly concerned by) the occupation in any way. We all hope that the paternalistic tone, and disturbing references to punishment, policing and exclusion, do not give voice to some basic truth about the attitudes the signatories hold towards their students or the conduct of political life. Taking this open letter into account, the moral of this whole sorry saga seems to be that people who want to achieve political ends dear to them, without alienating necessary allies, should beware of writing ill-considered things on walls.

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By: Barbara http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21189 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 23:41:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21189 I understand this may be the precedent and I understand the phrase and context, what I wonder is if there are other ways to do things that are yet unexplored. I’m hoping there are. Learning from the past is undeniably important, but thinking creatively and inclusively is also important. I am hopeful that political practice is an ongoing process (that was the point of my earlier post and why I think engaging with difference and disagreement is essential).

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By: Jeffrey Goldfarb http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/12/occupy-new-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21173 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:32:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=9988#comment-21173 Yes there is a need for an ethics of understanding, and it should be serious. We need to understand and engage people who think differently than we do. When I visited the occupation at 90 5th, I was disappointed by how much evidence there was that this understanding was not present, for some even as a matter of principle.

The end game, of course, was disheartening. I had hoped as you did that the students would use Kellen for real cultural experimentation and learning. I was very disappointed, as I imagine you must have been. Unlike you, I can’t write this all off as a great educational exercise, though. The possible lessons are too muddled, at least for me, to be understood. And bad art may have its uses, but it also has its limits, especially if you take the graffiti of the occupation as art, as you have suggested it should be.

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